WAIT_FOR_EVER_GC
09-04 08:14 PM
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i think there is more smartness needed than luck in the greencard process. If you look at the posts in this thread there are some people that came to usa in 1990s and still waiting, while some that came much later are on their way to citizenship. Some got the eb2 route and are happy and some in eb3 have only gloom before them.
This in my opinion has helped smart folks among us:
- they applied for gc as soon as possible. Those who waited did not give importance to greencard as soon as they started a job in usa are now paying for their mistakes. During the initial days of career i have seen people saying that gc is not important to them etc but when their h1b is about to expire they panic and get desperate for green card.
** even if a person starts the gc process in the initial days, he/she may find another better job than what they are doing now. You can't just stay with a desi blood sucker if your gc process has been started by that company.
Someone who has applied in june 2002 under eb3 never thought that he/she will be stuck for so long. This is because of the amnesty given by the bush administration in 2001.
This is pure luck.**
- before pre-perm era in 2005, smart folks took up jobs in states where labor certification had no backlog. They are now either waiting for citizenship or already citizens. On the other hand people in states like ca, ny etc suffered due to labor backlogs and far from getting greencard in hand.
** in pre-perm era some companies started opening dummy companies in states like delaware, maine, iowa, nebraska .. Etc, and applied labor from those states. Few people were lucky that they could get through this route.
One of my friend got stuck using this route, he had to change the company as uscis had
started questioning the companies.
If you are talking about getting hired by a company who is based out of such states is very difficult because these states do not have much jobs in the information technology sector.
- any company can be good or bad for an individual. It it not a question of consulting vs fortune 500 or small vs big size of a company. Smart folks know what matters them the most when they join a company. When company sees them as a valuable asset, it applies for them. I have seen where company applied for gc as soon as the employee joined it. And i have seen posts where people had to wait for several years before company applied.
** every desi blood sucking company till now tries to take as much advantage as possible and will file the gc when there is no other go.
- people who took advantage of the labor substitution got faster labors. Some could take advantage of eb2 labors and they are very fortunate. This is in no way endorsing the labor substitution rule, but in pre 2007 times nobody was protesting against it. This is a sad reality.
- smart folks took the risk and changed jobs wth eb2 job requirements, so that they can file in eb2. Such folks with 2007 pd are happy today and people with 2003 pds in eb3 will have to wait for a long time.
- if you read posts on this thread, many people have posted that they feel they are being screwed by their employer or lawyer. But hardly anyone has said they took any action against it. This is also a sad reality where we as a community have failed and will continue to suffer.
** what type of action are you talking about. Who has the money to hire another lawyer to fight against these people. The only action one could have taken is to leave the company. But as a matter of fact all the desi companies are the same.
If you are talking about getting hired by big companies then tell me seriously how many companies are willing to go through the paper work and file h1-b. During the 2001 recession tell me how many big companies were hiring.
A drawback of the big companies is that if your are fired you loose your gc process, if you are working for a consulting company you have option of consulting and your greencard process is still intact.
- many folks have said that they thought they were in eb2. But found they are in eb3. This shows another weakness of our community and lack of awareness. Iv forum tries to spread the awareness but unless an individual takes initiative, they will suffer.
Many people were able to file i485 in july 2007 due to iv effort. Imagine a 2004 eb3 india person without ead today? How will he survive a job loss on h1b in a bad economy? We should take a lesson from that event and try for another big push. There is no other shortcut for us. It is shocking to find people on this thread that are in this country for more than 10 years and without a green card. These folks should be the most vocal folks in this effort.
being vocal is another story
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i think there is more smartness needed than luck in the greencard process. If you look at the posts in this thread there are some people that came to usa in 1990s and still waiting, while some that came much later are on their way to citizenship. Some got the eb2 route and are happy and some in eb3 have only gloom before them.
This in my opinion has helped smart folks among us:
- they applied for gc as soon as possible. Those who waited did not give importance to greencard as soon as they started a job in usa are now paying for their mistakes. During the initial days of career i have seen people saying that gc is not important to them etc but when their h1b is about to expire they panic and get desperate for green card.
** even if a person starts the gc process in the initial days, he/she may find another better job than what they are doing now. You can't just stay with a desi blood sucker if your gc process has been started by that company.
Someone who has applied in june 2002 under eb3 never thought that he/she will be stuck for so long. This is because of the amnesty given by the bush administration in 2001.
This is pure luck.**
- before pre-perm era in 2005, smart folks took up jobs in states where labor certification had no backlog. They are now either waiting for citizenship or already citizens. On the other hand people in states like ca, ny etc suffered due to labor backlogs and far from getting greencard in hand.
** in pre-perm era some companies started opening dummy companies in states like delaware, maine, iowa, nebraska .. Etc, and applied labor from those states. Few people were lucky that they could get through this route.
One of my friend got stuck using this route, he had to change the company as uscis had
started questioning the companies.
If you are talking about getting hired by a company who is based out of such states is very difficult because these states do not have much jobs in the information technology sector.
- any company can be good or bad for an individual. It it not a question of consulting vs fortune 500 or small vs big size of a company. Smart folks know what matters them the most when they join a company. When company sees them as a valuable asset, it applies for them. I have seen where company applied for gc as soon as the employee joined it. And i have seen posts where people had to wait for several years before company applied.
** every desi blood sucking company till now tries to take as much advantage as possible and will file the gc when there is no other go.
- people who took advantage of the labor substitution got faster labors. Some could take advantage of eb2 labors and they are very fortunate. This is in no way endorsing the labor substitution rule, but in pre 2007 times nobody was protesting against it. This is a sad reality.
- smart folks took the risk and changed jobs wth eb2 job requirements, so that they can file in eb2. Such folks with 2007 pd are happy today and people with 2003 pds in eb3 will have to wait for a long time.
- if you read posts on this thread, many people have posted that they feel they are being screwed by their employer or lawyer. But hardly anyone has said they took any action against it. This is also a sad reality where we as a community have failed and will continue to suffer.
** what type of action are you talking about. Who has the money to hire another lawyer to fight against these people. The only action one could have taken is to leave the company. But as a matter of fact all the desi companies are the same.
If you are talking about getting hired by big companies then tell me seriously how many companies are willing to go through the paper work and file h1-b. During the 2001 recession tell me how many big companies were hiring.
A drawback of the big companies is that if your are fired you loose your gc process, if you are working for a consulting company you have option of consulting and your greencard process is still intact.
- many folks have said that they thought they were in eb2. But found they are in eb3. This shows another weakness of our community and lack of awareness. Iv forum tries to spread the awareness but unless an individual takes initiative, they will suffer.
Many people were able to file i485 in july 2007 due to iv effort. Imagine a 2004 eb3 india person without ead today? How will he survive a job loss on h1b in a bad economy? We should take a lesson from that event and try for another big push. There is no other shortcut for us. It is shocking to find people on this thread that are in this country for more than 10 years and without a green card. These folks should be the most vocal folks in this effort.
being vocal is another story
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jasmin45
07-12 07:20 PM
URGENT ACTION ITEM : We need stories from people who suffered damages due to the July Visa bulletin fiasco. This request is coming straight from the office of Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren. Please respond - ESPECIALLY if you live in San Jose, CA (Congresswomans' district).
DO SEND YOUR STORIES ASAP to facilitate Hon. Rep who stood with us during this difficult time. :)
DO SEND YOUR STORIES ASAP to facilitate Hon. Rep who stood with us during this difficult time. :)
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Macaca
10-01 04:07 PM
If the USCSI didnt have enough applications to be assigned the VISA , then why are they so conservative in making the cutoff dates move ahead. What is the harm in pro-actively moving the cutiff dates, to amek sure no visa gets wasted.
A cut-off date avoids submission of AOS applications with PD after cut-off date. In my opinion, this was the only reason to retrogress on July 2: avoid AOS submission whose PDs became current in July.
Now nearly all AOS applications have been submitted. Hence, setting cut-off dates conservatively is not that motivating.
A cut-off date avoids submission of AOS applications with PD after cut-off date. In my opinion, this was the only reason to retrogress on July 2: avoid AOS submission whose PDs became current in July.
Now nearly all AOS applications have been submitted. Hence, setting cut-off dates conservatively is not that motivating.
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guyfromsg
08-21 12:13 AM
I live in Georgia and I agree with you all. All these DMVs were sleeping and woke up after 9/11 and imposing these strict rules that makes everyone's life miserable. Unless you live in a city life will be hell without DL and we are sweating it over every time a renewal comes up. How am I suppose to explain DMV guy about I-94, H1 extension etc. Even some immigration officers in airport give wrong I-94 expiry date without understanding the difference between visa stamp and extension.
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ssnd03
04-01 05:00 PM
First of all why do U wanna ask that? Its an employment based visa that ur GC is based on. So, ur employer shud ask that. Why are u asking IVans to do something which is not in their control??? I keep getting red and dont mind if I'm banned. But excuse me...u r misleading IVans. My point is this. We can protest, rally based on the delay. Thats pretty much we can do. Inquiring into a Government agency's internal affairs is none of ur business. And I repeat u dont have any rights to do that as u have NO direct link to USCIS. U have applied thru ur employer and ur employer shud speak for u. Do u even get it? Ur statements and arguments have no logic whatsoever and misleading.
Dard-E-Disco I have read your comments on this thread.. Frankly you are retarded and ignorant.
I485 is an individual application. It has nothing to do with the employer even in the EB cases. The basis for I485 can be an EB I140. USCIS is answerable to the employer for I140 and answerable to the immigrant for I485. However, I don't think you have the mental capability to understand this obvious law.
Immigrants don't get to vote and may not have other rights such a welfare, social securicty etc. But USA as the greatest democracy on earth provides almost all of the rights to citizens and foreigners alike. In fact you can complain to your local, state & federal lawmakers and they will help you in your problems.
And yes a foreigner has the right to complain about any govt. organization including USCIS if their processes are adversely effecting him or her. These are the basic principles of the US democracy.
Even though relatively US has one of the best functional govt.. sometimes it still takes lot of effort and time for the wheels to turn. Thats what IV is trying to achieve.
Having said that I doubt any of this will penetrate your thick skull. Dard-e-disco you are basically a retard!
Dard-E-Disco I have read your comments on this thread.. Frankly you are retarded and ignorant.
I485 is an individual application. It has nothing to do with the employer even in the EB cases. The basis for I485 can be an EB I140. USCIS is answerable to the employer for I140 and answerable to the immigrant for I485. However, I don't think you have the mental capability to understand this obvious law.
Immigrants don't get to vote and may not have other rights such a welfare, social securicty etc. But USA as the greatest democracy on earth provides almost all of the rights to citizens and foreigners alike. In fact you can complain to your local, state & federal lawmakers and they will help you in your problems.
And yes a foreigner has the right to complain about any govt. organization including USCIS if their processes are adversely effecting him or her. These are the basic principles of the US democracy.
Even though relatively US has one of the best functional govt.. sometimes it still takes lot of effort and time for the wheels to turn. Thats what IV is trying to achieve.
Having said that I doubt any of this will penetrate your thick skull. Dard-e-disco you are basically a retard!
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NolaIndian32
07-11 10:37 AM
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coopheal
12-27 12:20 PM
Let's brainstorm on what we can do to remove country limits restrictions.
We will push for that in CIR if not prior.
We will push for that in CIR if not prior.
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govindk
07-11 08:15 AM
it is really a good news for EB2-I :)
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jayZinDC
06-11 06:53 PM
a small contribution for now I will set up recurring soon. Can't thank you guys enough for being such a great support network. Not to be preachy, are we the same people who stood an united front against the Brits?
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eb3_nepa
07-14 10:18 PM
Running total so far $608
Good work. Let keep rolling.
Hi gsc999,
Any chance we can put this on the IV homepage itself? If this campaign has to succeed, it needs a 100% of the members to contribute, else the results will be extremely sorry.
Good work. Let keep rolling.
Hi gsc999,
Any chance we can put this on the IV homepage itself? If this campaign has to succeed, it needs a 100% of the members to contribute, else the results will be extremely sorry.
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nojoke
09-05 07:05 PM
There is no doubt about NRIs are the prime reason for the real estate boom in India. It is tottally unbelivable that 2 bedroom flat in a normal second class town has gone to up to 40 lakes. Decent independent houses are in terms of crores in small cites. Two factors. One is foreign money and second in black money from local dadas/politicians. Also demand vs supply. The availble land is small and demand for that land is too high due to these two gropus.
I visited one of my NRI friends house in India, where he is not going to live as he is a US citizen. His parents already won two houses and they bought another house as a investment. This house in a recent development area in a small town where there is no high tech employment is avialable; In my feeling it may not worth 5 lakes; they were selling at 45 lakes. Even if anyone ready to pay 45 lakes there is no unit is avialable; everything was sold to NRIs. No resident won the houses in that area. All the dads and mos are baby sitting the houses. Renting alos not that easy. It is tottally unbelivable. I wonder why all the NRIs buying house in India and increisng the house price? The guys working here (or any part of the world) and not going to live in India, why government should allow to buy the house and increse the price? Everyone tries to do real estate bussiness there. That is the main reason for price increase.
Is is sad. All these NRIs are going to learn a very valuable lesson. Speculation is not a good strategy for investing. A lot learned that in the past few months here in USA. In a year we will be seeing the full blown post bubble correction in India. If one can rent an apartment for 15,000 why would one buy it for 50 lakhs. The interest alone on 50 lakhs is 50,000 every month. It is like buy and rent it and loose money. Instead why don't they deposit in a bank and get 50,000 every month:confused:
I visited one of my NRI friends house in India, where he is not going to live as he is a US citizen. His parents already won two houses and they bought another house as a investment. This house in a recent development area in a small town where there is no high tech employment is avialable; In my feeling it may not worth 5 lakes; they were selling at 45 lakes. Even if anyone ready to pay 45 lakes there is no unit is avialable; everything was sold to NRIs. No resident won the houses in that area. All the dads and mos are baby sitting the houses. Renting alos not that easy. It is tottally unbelivable. I wonder why all the NRIs buying house in India and increisng the house price? The guys working here (or any part of the world) and not going to live in India, why government should allow to buy the house and increse the price? Everyone tries to do real estate bussiness there. That is the main reason for price increase.
Is is sad. All these NRIs are going to learn a very valuable lesson. Speculation is not a good strategy for investing. A lot learned that in the past few months here in USA. In a year we will be seeing the full blown post bubble correction in India. If one can rent an apartment for 15,000 why would one buy it for 50 lakhs. The interest alone on 50 lakhs is 50,000 every month. It is like buy and rent it and loose money. Instead why don't they deposit in a bank and get 50,000 every month:confused:
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akred
03-30 06:17 PM
Last I knew every H1 is a non-resident alien.
Well you knew wrong. As long as you stayed in the US for more than 183 days in 2007, you are a resident for tax purposes.
If you are falling short of the 183 day requirement, you can opt to fulfill the 183 day requirement by counting 1/2 of the days of the prior year (2006) or 1/3rd of the days of the year before that (2005) that you were physically present in the US.
Well you knew wrong. As long as you stayed in the US for more than 183 days in 2007, you are a resident for tax purposes.
If you are falling short of the 183 day requirement, you can opt to fulfill the 183 day requirement by counting 1/2 of the days of the prior year (2006) or 1/3rd of the days of the year before that (2005) that you were physically present in the US.
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ksrk
02-26 02:02 PM
On what basis you are saying that? Do you have any data/links to support this?
That's my question too! Just speculation or based on something solid?
That's my question too! Just speculation or based on something solid?
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bp333
03-04 12:20 PM
Is your case at NSC? I have definitely noticed a pattern of pre-adjudcation activity from NSC for cases filed in July-August 2007.
My application is filed with Texas Service Centre.
My application is filed with Texas Service Centre.
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carbon
07-20 03:27 PM
I thought Grassley is against skilled immigration!
He voted Yea!
He voted Yea!
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hsd31
09-01 01:33 PM
kalinga_sena case seems to be the worst.
Besides kalinga_sena and me, looks like gclabor07 and mgmanoj have also been in the US 10+ years and still don't have an EAD. That will be an interesting poll too: 10+ years in the US and still no EAD.
Besides kalinga_sena and me, looks like gclabor07 and mgmanoj have also been in the US 10+ years and still don't have an EAD. That will be an interesting poll too: 10+ years in the US and still no EAD.
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snathan
02-09 10:24 PM
Sure. I feel sorry for you. My family doesnt live off my money nor my inlaws :) and no body has ever asked me for it. Gifts sure. I buy them myself. Not that they expect it :)
Well. Your parents and in laws may not need your money. But defintely IV needs it. So contribute at
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=23597&page=1000
Well. Your parents and in laws may not need your money. But defintely IV needs it. So contribute at
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=23597&page=1000
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ags123
03-09 01:19 PM
Ok I guess I give up pretty disappointing after all the analysis.:(:(:(:(
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satishku_2000
07-05 11:45 PM
Worked over the weekend so that they can relax for 5 more years ...and collect those inflated fees ..disgusting ....
piliriver
03-21 03:23 PM
@AllVNeedGCPC : Did you get any updates on I-485
@gene77 : When was your I-140 approved and what is your priority date.
Thanks!
@gene77 : When was your I-140 approved and what is your priority date.
Thanks!
arnab221
12-12 05:49 PM
What are the chances for the PD moving to Mid 2007 by end of 2010 ? :(
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