gccube
07-18 05:11 PM
Consider I-485 Processing as a 2 Door Room. Front Door is for people who's PD has been current for the given month and can apply & Back Door is for Adjudicating People who are already applied & still current for that month.
The size of the room depends on what date they retrogress it to. If Cutoff date is say 2002, there are few people in that room who would be ready for adjudication. Instead if cutoff date is say 2006, there will be a huge number of people in the room.
As long as you stay in that room for more month (be current), the more chance you have of getting adjudicated fast, but also depends on how many people are ahead of you per RD.
Assuming that the date is retrogressed from 'C' to 2000 Jan, they start accepting the AOS apps with that PD and then do we assume that they are also working on them or say they donot work on it until the receipt date becomes current.
If the answer to the question above is 'NO' (that is the receipt date has to become current to adjudicate an AOS app, ofcourse PD has to be current too) then why is that USCIS accepting apps with a specified PD cut off date. In this case I am not looking at the people who are already in the room but am wondering why they are letting more people into the room, particularly when there is no room.
If the answer to the question above it 'YES', that means PD does play a significant role in the AOS adjudication process when there is retrogression, in my opinion.
The size of the room depends on what date they retrogress it to. If Cutoff date is say 2002, there are few people in that room who would be ready for adjudication. Instead if cutoff date is say 2006, there will be a huge number of people in the room.
As long as you stay in that room for more month (be current), the more chance you have of getting adjudicated fast, but also depends on how many people are ahead of you per RD.
Assuming that the date is retrogressed from 'C' to 2000 Jan, they start accepting the AOS apps with that PD and then do we assume that they are also working on them or say they donot work on it until the receipt date becomes current.
If the answer to the question above is 'NO' (that is the receipt date has to become current to adjudicate an AOS app, ofcourse PD has to be current too) then why is that USCIS accepting apps with a specified PD cut off date. In this case I am not looking at the people who are already in the room but am wondering why they are letting more people into the room, particularly when there is no room.
If the answer to the question above it 'YES', that means PD does play a significant role in the AOS adjudication process when there is retrogression, in my opinion.
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andy garcia
10-01 11:28 AM
Great find, Andy. Based on your explanation, I can say that our real problem is not the lack of visa numbers. There are enough visa numbers, but USCIS is not utilizing them.
This also tells me that an increase in visa numbers to 290,000 (or what ever number that the SKILL bill is asking for) would NOT change the situation a little bit. The end result only will be that the USCIS will end up with more number of unused visas.
Can the IV community do some thing to improve the whole situation?
Thanks h1techSlave;
I always said that the problem is not the visa numbers but some people replied that I am an anti-Indian/Chinese/etc.
just because I said so.
Remember that this system was designed back when there was one single queue.
You applied for your Labor and waited(establish a PD), everybody who applied after you was behind you.
After the Labor was approved, you applied for the I-140. This will determine your category/country of chargeability and will filter some of the fraud cases
After the I-140 was granted. You apply for either CP or AOS. At this point CIS/DOS knew how many applications were pending for each category/country and could move the dates smoothly.
Now the mess is so big that it takes them until February(6 months after the End of the previous Fiscal Year) to publish the number of visas issued
This also tells me that an increase in visa numbers to 290,000 (or what ever number that the SKILL bill is asking for) would NOT change the situation a little bit. The end result only will be that the USCIS will end up with more number of unused visas.
Can the IV community do some thing to improve the whole situation?
Thanks h1techSlave;
I always said that the problem is not the visa numbers but some people replied that I am an anti-Indian/Chinese/etc.
just because I said so.
Remember that this system was designed back when there was one single queue.
You applied for your Labor and waited(establish a PD), everybody who applied after you was behind you.
After the Labor was approved, you applied for the I-140. This will determine your category/country of chargeability and will filter some of the fraud cases
After the I-140 was granted. You apply for either CP or AOS. At this point CIS/DOS knew how many applications were pending for each category/country and could move the dates smoothly.
Now the mess is so big that it takes them until February(6 months after the End of the previous Fiscal Year) to publish the number of visas issued
fromnaija
06-01 05:20 PM
The date of the I-140 approval matters just in case the visa dates are retrogressed again before your case is adjudicated, in which case it will be better the longer the delay on your 140 approval. See examlpe 5 in raju123's posting above.
Thank you for your response......
Yes I believe paperwork will be filed for all my dependants concurrently. Does it even matter when the I140 is approved?
It seems that under the new law his cutoff date is Jun 1 since that is when my priority date will be current so as long as he applies for a green card within one year he is ok.
So if we apply concurrently when is his green card application deemed to have been applied for? When we file concurrently or only when and if the 140is approved.
What do you think?
Thank you for your response......
Yes I believe paperwork will be filed for all my dependants concurrently. Does it even matter when the I140 is approved?
It seems that under the new law his cutoff date is Jun 1 since that is when my priority date will be current so as long as he applies for a green card within one year he is ok.
So if we apply concurrently when is his green card application deemed to have been applied for? When we file concurrently or only when and if the 140is approved.
What do you think?
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nyte_crawler
04-25 11:51 AM
Maybe highly intelligent people make irrational decisions.:)
The current Priority date based Labor application system makes the most higly skilled immigrants bonded laborers where the employers can exploit them. This especially happens to people who are highly intelligent but donot try short routes to Green card and do not think of jumbing ahead of others in the que or moving to other companies to get green card processed faster. Reality dawn sonly when nearing the six year completion date of H1B.
We need to change this unjust immigration system so that atleast in future merit gets rewarded and people who really deserve get their green card.
The current Priority date based Labor application system makes the most higly skilled immigrants bonded laborers where the employers can exploit them. This especially happens to people who are highly intelligent but donot try short routes to Green card and do not think of jumbing ahead of others in the que or moving to other companies to get green card processed faster. Reality dawn sonly when nearing the six year completion date of H1B.
We need to change this unjust immigration system so that atleast in future merit gets rewarded and people who really deserve get their green card.
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pani_6
07-24 07:40 PM
EB-3 I wake up and send the letter out..we need to make relevant authorities aware of our situation. Uncertanity and doom stares us come on EB-3 I lets see some action!
rustamehind
07-18 07:12 PM
Lets say your PD is/was current in March, April, June and July. You decided not to apply in the previous months and you finally submitted at the end of July. On the other hand i had my PD current on July and i applied. After i applied and before you applied there could be 10k(for example) applications. Now when its time to process application which one they should process yours or mine?. Obviously they will process the one that they got first. They not going to look for the PD and pull out your's from the pile of applications. Its your fault that you have not applied early enough even though your PD was current.
What if out of all 10000 , 9999 don't have priority date current.Do you think they will still not look at the 1 in the pile which has a current PD.They will look at it , Even if it is number 10000 in the list.Actually there will be no pile because 9999 people won't even be in contention.
Why do you think labour substitution was so HOT?Just because by getting an earlier PD , you were going to steam roll everybody who filed before you , just because you got an earlier PD..
What if out of all 10000 , 9999 don't have priority date current.Do you think they will still not look at the 1 in the pile which has a current PD.They will look at it , Even if it is number 10000 in the list.Actually there will be no pile because 9999 people won't even be in contention.
Why do you think labour substitution was so HOT?Just because by getting an earlier PD , you were going to steam roll everybody who filed before you , just because you got an earlier PD..
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abandookwala63
07-23 01:07 AM
OK!
Where are you schedule A? Come on, join this forum, share your opinion and propositions!
Do all agree that "bridge bill" is the only real helpful measure for us? Or you can show us some other ways?
I mean let's set at least one goal!
After that we can establish what we have, and how we can make it real.
Anyway, it might be quite difficult to organise such a work group, because the majourity of schedule A are outside the US, and on CP... But we all have our emploiers and attorneis who could help us to lobby our interests in the US.
What do you think about it?
My wife is a RN just passed her NCLEX from Texas. She studied in US. Looking for a sponsor. Asked one of them and they replied there is no H1 for Nurses, you have to be a BSN to be sponsored. Time is bad for nurses after Schedule A quota is over.
Where are you schedule A? Come on, join this forum, share your opinion and propositions!
Do all agree that "bridge bill" is the only real helpful measure for us? Or you can show us some other ways?
I mean let's set at least one goal!
After that we can establish what we have, and how we can make it real.
Anyway, it might be quite difficult to organise such a work group, because the majourity of schedule A are outside the US, and on CP... But we all have our emploiers and attorneis who could help us to lobby our interests in the US.
What do you think about it?
My wife is a RN just passed her NCLEX from Texas. She studied in US. Looking for a sponsor. Asked one of them and they replied there is no H1 for Nurses, you have to be a BSN to be sponsored. Time is bad for nurses after Schedule A quota is over.
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pankajkakkar
08-08 02:49 PM
After reading the op-ed by Pankaj, I had the following questions: Has the SKIL bill already passed the Senate? I know it is included as part of CIR. But, what happens if CIR gets thrown out?
There are five possibilities, as far as I can think:
1. The House does absolutely nothing. CIR sits unenforced (it's not law until the House passes an identical bill). We continue to suffer. Highly unlikely, since there is a lot of pressure to do *something*.
2. The House passes SKIL by itself. In this case, the Senate will have to revote on SKIL by itself, and then SKIL would be a law by itself. CIR will be irrelevant. We will get what we want. Somewhat likely, if (3) or (4) doesn't happen.
3. The House and Senate conference to come up with a bill. SKIL is discarded in conference. The House and Senate will have to revote on the bill. CIR will be irrelevant. We will continue to suffer. I think this is somewhat unlikely. If there is a conference, big business with it's deep pockets will have its way. Big business supports SKIL.
4. The House and Senate conference to come up with a bill. SKIL is included in conference. The House and Senate will have to revote on the bill. CIR will be irrelevant. We will get what we want. I think this is the most likely possibility, although timing is very uncertain (it may not happen until spring of next year).
5. The House passes CIR identical to the Senate bill. CIR will be law. We will get what we want. Highly unlikely.
Pankaj
There are five possibilities, as far as I can think:
1. The House does absolutely nothing. CIR sits unenforced (it's not law until the House passes an identical bill). We continue to suffer. Highly unlikely, since there is a lot of pressure to do *something*.
2. The House passes SKIL by itself. In this case, the Senate will have to revote on SKIL by itself, and then SKIL would be a law by itself. CIR will be irrelevant. We will get what we want. Somewhat likely, if (3) or (4) doesn't happen.
3. The House and Senate conference to come up with a bill. SKIL is discarded in conference. The House and Senate will have to revote on the bill. CIR will be irrelevant. We will continue to suffer. I think this is somewhat unlikely. If there is a conference, big business with it's deep pockets will have its way. Big business supports SKIL.
4. The House and Senate conference to come up with a bill. SKIL is included in conference. The House and Senate will have to revote on the bill. CIR will be irrelevant. We will get what we want. I think this is the most likely possibility, although timing is very uncertain (it may not happen until spring of next year).
5. The House passes CIR identical to the Senate bill. CIR will be law. We will get what we want. Highly unlikely.
Pankaj
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bp333
03-04 11:11 AM
Not sure if something is cooking at USCIS, last week an USCIS office called my attroney to get clarification on why we (my wife and I) are residing at separate addresses. We are in the process of relocation (company moved), my wife chose to continue her employment while she's searching for opportunities in the new location. The officer stated that they are trying to adjudicate the cases ASAP, hence he's inquiring to ensure there isnt any marriage fraud. My attorney responsed back will all the possible evidence to proved we are together.
Has anyone had a similar experience.
My PD: Aug 2004
Cat: EB3 India.
Has anyone had a similar experience.
My PD: Aug 2004
Cat: EB3 India.
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AllVNeedGcPc
10-21 09:32 PM
... for example:
Step 1: File EB2 Perm labor (6-10 months)
Step 2: File 140 (2 days to 4 months)
:
And when should you interfile / port your EB3 date? Should you do it when you apply for 140 or should you do it after 140 approval when you apply for 485?
Thanks in advance
Step 1: File EB2 Perm labor (6-10 months)
Step 2: File 140 (2 days to 4 months)
:
And when should you interfile / port your EB3 date? Should you do it when you apply for 140 or should you do it after 140 approval when you apply for 485?
Thanks in advance
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srikondoji
09-09 10:58 AM
Ah, so you are looking to purchase in Hyd. Here is the latest, if you already don't know.
There is a talk about HMDA which is an agency to overlook a project extending the Hyderabad to Bhongir in the East and to Medak in the west.
There will be strict implementation of plans for constructing new houses.
Realtors have already started marketing this and extracting high prices.
If you do have time to research, you can purchase land for cheap (around 3-4 thousand rupees per sql yard) in the outskirts.
Good luck.
Thank you very much for the suggestions.Once the elections are done next year do you think rates will go down..I'm actually thinking about Hyd.Have been waiting so long but rates are only going up.
Is it possible to apply for loan with SBI/LIC from here (US)?
Thank you.
There is a talk about HMDA which is an agency to overlook a project extending the Hyderabad to Bhongir in the East and to Medak in the west.
There will be strict implementation of plans for constructing new houses.
Realtors have already started marketing this and extracting high prices.
If you do have time to research, you can purchase land for cheap (around 3-4 thousand rupees per sql yard) in the outskirts.
Good luck.
Thank you very much for the suggestions.Once the elections are done next year do you think rates will go down..I'm actually thinking about Hyd.Have been waiting so long but rates are only going up.
Is it possible to apply for loan with SBI/LIC from here (US)?
Thank you.
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jonty_11
07-06 01:35 PM
66K plus 60K still only makes 126K, do they still have another 20K or so? How does the math tally here?
I think this all boils down to them wanting to clear the 485 backlog without accepting any more 485s all while not wasting any visa numbers for this year.
In an effort to juggle all these issues, they screwed it all up.
Bottom line is they want to streamline the system such that they don't have "unapprovable" 485s in the system. They have caught on to the way the lawyers and us legal immigrants were filing 485s to get our foot in the door then sitting tight for eons. They simply don't want that. They either want you here on a visa or on a green card straightforwardly. Thats what I am getting from all this.
Could be, But I still feel they did this to avoid a but load of applications simple because they DO NOT WANNA WORK.
If they think that we should be on GCs or VISA only, then they would be already working on streamlining the sytem instead of wasting so many VISAS every year as per Ombudsman's report.
I think this all boils down to them wanting to clear the 485 backlog without accepting any more 485s all while not wasting any visa numbers for this year.
In an effort to juggle all these issues, they screwed it all up.
Bottom line is they want to streamline the system such that they don't have "unapprovable" 485s in the system. They have caught on to the way the lawyers and us legal immigrants were filing 485s to get our foot in the door then sitting tight for eons. They simply don't want that. They either want you here on a visa or on a green card straightforwardly. Thats what I am getting from all this.
Could be, But I still feel they did this to avoid a but load of applications simple because they DO NOT WANNA WORK.
If they think that we should be on GCs or VISA only, then they would be already working on streamlining the sytem instead of wasting so many VISAS every year as per Ombudsman's report.
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a2006
07-06 03:00 AM
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good thought
Why don't you start an initiative and "be the change that you want to see" before blaming others and calling for change. We have seen endless talk in these forums which is probably the easiest thing to do.:mad:
good thought
Why don't you start an initiative and "be the change that you want to see" before blaming others and calling for change. We have seen endless talk in these forums which is probably the easiest thing to do.:mad:
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Winner
05-12 11:30 AM
Called Senator Ensign and Hatch's office again.
They both listened to what I had to say and assured that they will pass the message on to the Senators.
One of the aides sounded surprised when I told her average wait time is at least 10+ years, please call senators in the list.
They both listened to what I had to say and assured that they will pass the message on to the Senators.
One of the aides sounded surprised when I told her average wait time is at least 10+ years, please call senators in the list.
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qplearn
12-18 06:02 PM
You may want to get in touch with core members if you have questions. They are very prompt in answering questions.Such posts will only create roadblocks to the momentum created on the forum by some of our members. It is time to help rather than ask. We have seen in the lameduck session how close we came to getting the bill passed. If IV was not there, even this much was not possible. We give thousands of dollars to our lawyers, can't we simply give 20 dollars to IV without asking questions and believing in this cause?
I don't give any money without asking questions. Sorry, I am just that way. And I am guessing most people are like that. I have given money in the past, however, and have contributed in many other ways as well.
Oh, and rather than acting as a roadblock, it will actually help the process.
I don't give any money without asking questions. Sorry, I am just that way. And I am guessing most people are like that. I have given money in the past, however, and have contributed in many other ways as well.
Oh, and rather than acting as a roadblock, it will actually help the process.
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07-06 01:59 PM
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Jimi_Hendrix
11-10 09:53 AM
We now have 5 members in Southern California who have shown interest in participating State Chapter work. I think that is a great start. Thanks for your postings. Once the core team gives us a set of responsibilities we can start rolling.
Thanks.
Thanks.
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gc_kaavaali
07-14 03:43 PM
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Confirmation# 7YB9Q-GCRR7
Hello everyone,
I am starting a new campaign for IV's benefit. It is called "Give me a High Five".
The point of this campaign is to send Not $100, not $50, not even $10.
ALL you need to do is write out a $5 cheque and send it to IV on the address listed.
The address to mail the checks to is:
Immigration Voice
P O Box 1372
Arcadia, CA 91077-1372
This address can also be found at: http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=76&Itemid=65
Please make sure you send in a cheque ONLY or do a bill pay so that no paypal/google checkout fees apply and all of the $5 ACTUALLY goes to IV.
We have 30,000 members on here. If EACH of us contributes just $5 we have $150,000.
For the sake of your OWN freedom, can you donate just FIVE dollars to IV? Every single one of you. IV has done a LOT for every legal immigrant. All we ask in return right now is FIVE dollars. FIVE dollars. Not the price of one month of Cable, but the price of a SUBWAY SANDWICH.
Confirmation# 7YB9Q-GCRR7
Hello everyone,
I am starting a new campaign for IV's benefit. It is called "Give me a High Five".
The point of this campaign is to send Not $100, not $50, not even $10.
ALL you need to do is write out a $5 cheque and send it to IV on the address listed.
The address to mail the checks to is:
Immigration Voice
P O Box 1372
Arcadia, CA 91077-1372
This address can also be found at: http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=76&Itemid=65
Please make sure you send in a cheque ONLY or do a bill pay so that no paypal/google checkout fees apply and all of the $5 ACTUALLY goes to IV.
We have 30,000 members on here. If EACH of us contributes just $5 we have $150,000.
For the sake of your OWN freedom, can you donate just FIVE dollars to IV? Every single one of you. IV has done a LOT for every legal immigrant. All we ask in return right now is FIVE dollars. FIVE dollars. Not the price of one month of Cable, but the price of a SUBWAY SANDWICH.
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sanju_dba
09-01 09:23 AM
on H1 since 2000 Nov.
Started working for my 3rd US employer in 2001, started GC process in Mar 2003 thru RIR process.
Every year a new hope, but IV is like a street light , i can look around whats happening.
Started working for my 3rd US employer in 2001, started GC process in Mar 2003 thru RIR process.
Every year a new hope, but IV is like a street light , i can look around whats happening.
saimrathi
07-05 01:18 PM
Please send the contact info, I will call them too.. Iam from PA also..
Finally spoke to my congressman's Immigration contact in Bucks County PA.
He sounded supportive and said he will investigate the matter. I am going to call my state senators Sen Specter and Sen Casey's office as well.
People in PA, unite and call these lawmakers.
Finally spoke to my congressman's Immigration contact in Bucks County PA.
He sounded supportive and said he will investigate the matter. I am going to call my state senators Sen Specter and Sen Casey's office as well.
People in PA, unite and call these lawmakers.
singhsa3
07-20 12:43 PM
It is still optimistic my freind. As one of our member pointed out, realstic number would be around 600K, which implies 16 months wait for some people. Also , we do not know the level of work force at USCIS engaged in processing EAD. It could be 10, it could be 100. More the better but it we it is fewer than we are doomed.
Additional Comments:
Also, any new hires will need to be trained, and infrastructure need to be set up. All these things do not happen overnight
If you assume 30 people, you get 1 year per your calculations. Make it 90 and we get it in 3 months:D
Additional Comments:
Also, any new hires will need to be trained, and infrastructure need to be set up. All these things do not happen overnight
If you assume 30 people, you get 1 year per your calculations. Make it 90 and we get it in 3 months:D
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